What is the state not doing that you think it should?
the state is not: -testing rape kits -taking domestic violence complaints seriously -enforcing restraining orders -responding fast enough to 911 calls to certain areas -educating men on rape, on violence against women -acting in any kind of feminist way -training their police on gender issues in any meaningful way -doing anything at all to prevent violence against women... they sort of half respond to it sometimes, but nothing in advance -making sex work safer -providing women with information about current risks
This whole "it will be used against you" thing is bullshit. Owning a car increases your risk of dying in a car accident too. But we train people, we license, we regulate, and we remove the right based on abuse, and we balance convenience with certain deaths in traffic accidents. Do you think women cops are at some great risks of happen their weapons used against them? No, because they are trained. When guns are illegal maybe people get them used against themselves because they were never trained.
"Sure, it works sometimes but the odds are still stacked way against you." What odds? Where?
If a man wants to kill me, he can. Having a gun might even the situation. Yes, he might have a gun too, but he already likely has deadly force at his disposal in a fight with me, with most women.
If there are a bunch of kids around and people going to be hit by stray bullets I probably could get help and not need to fire, right? What are these cases of women firing guns in self defense that killed bystanders?
I just clicked your link - yeah, a kid shot, a mom shot, a pregnant woman shot... by men. None of these shooters was shooting in self defense. You are arguing against the misuse of guns... irresponsible target practice? Two men arguing? That is not what I'm talking about. Realize first that guns are not going away. Now examine why they are a tool/weapon the good guys/good girls aren't allowed to have.
Sometimes people poison people. Does this mean we shouldn't sell medicine? No, it doesn't, it means we should guard against its misuse, and punish when it is used to harm others, but recognize that sometimes an individual needs it to save their life.
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Date: 2008-12-03 07:58 am (UTC)the state is not:
-testing rape kits
-taking domestic violence complaints seriously
-enforcing restraining orders
-responding fast enough to 911 calls to certain areas
-educating men on rape, on violence against women
-acting in any kind of feminist way
-training their police on gender issues in any meaningful way
-doing anything at all to prevent violence against women... they sort of half respond to it sometimes, but nothing in advance
-making sex work safer
-providing women with information about current risks
This whole "it will be used against you" thing is bullshit. Owning a car increases your risk of dying in a car accident too. But we train people, we license, we regulate, and we remove the right based on abuse, and we balance convenience with certain deaths in traffic accidents. Do you think women cops are at some great risks of happen their weapons used against them? No, because they are trained. When guns are illegal maybe people get them used against themselves because they were never trained.
"Sure, it works sometimes but the odds are still stacked way against you."
What odds? Where?
If a man wants to kill me, he can. Having a gun might even the situation. Yes, he might have a gun too, but he already likely has deadly force at his disposal in a fight with me, with most women.
If there are a bunch of kids around and people going to be hit by stray bullets I probably could get help and not need to fire, right?
What are these cases of women firing guns in self defense that killed bystanders?
I just clicked your link - yeah, a kid shot, a mom shot, a pregnant woman shot... by men. None of these shooters was shooting in self defense. You are arguing against the misuse of guns... irresponsible target practice? Two men arguing? That is not what I'm talking about.
Realize first that guns are not going away. Now examine why they are a tool/weapon the good guys/good girls aren't allowed to have.
Sometimes people poison people. Does this mean we shouldn't sell medicine? No, it doesn't, it means we should guard against its misuse, and punish when it is used to harm others, but recognize that sometimes an individual needs it to save their life.